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Saturday, January 7, 2012

Silver now in backwardation as paper and physical prices much different

Wall Street always wants people to focus on the paper products they sell, and in doing so, try to establish false prices for commodities such as gold and silver.

Fortunately, those who own physical metals are usually not fooled when the paper prices fall, or rise based on rumors and manipulation.  This can be expressed in no better terms than backwardation.

Take for example Eric Sprotts PSLV etf which is truly backed 100% with physical silver.  Even as the futures price at the CME and NY markets have fallen some 30%, the premium for the actual physical silver has JUMPED 30% to equate the actual price value vs the paper price.

...one can either try to procure gold and silver at a retail merchant, or one can look to the premium of a dedicated physical ETF over spot. Such as Eric Sprott's PSLV which as of today is trading at an all time high premium of 30%! In other words, someone is willing to pay up to 30% over spot for the right to be closer to the physical metal than merely have a paper claim on a paper claim (pre hyper rehypothecation and what not). - Zerohedge

Courtesy of Zerohedge

So always check and double check the claims of price falls on silver and gold, especially if you hold the physical metal.  Supply and demand rule the actual price much more than bank determination to prop up the fiat dollar, and keep the people in the dark on the metals true value

Thursday, December 29, 2011

Jim Willie: The disconnect between paper and physical gold is underway

As many gold bugs sweat a little these days with the pullback in gold prices, and talking head analysts on CNBC and Bloomberg pounce on the drop in prices as if their several years of being wrong on gold is somehow now validated, professional metals analyst Jim Willie has a few things to say about the market.

Divergence between paper gold and physical gold price is happening, the process begun. Actual physical shortages have kept the price up. The naked shorting of futures has kept the paper price down. The fraud cases and lawsuits, with no hint of prosecution, provide the levered force to create much wider divergence, as traders and entire firms depart the tainted crime scene that is the COMEX. Trust has vanished along with private accounts. At the center of the backdrop for the divergence, apart from the criminal events, is the economic deterioration and asset market downdraft. It leads to margin calls, loan payment obligations, fading investor confidence, negative sentiment, and a desire to avoid loss. Hence the huge liquidity concerns, selling of good assets that command a strong price, and central bank encouragement of gold sales even with lease. - IB Times

As we head into 2012, all indicators point to a deflationary period, and an inevitable massive bailout of both Euorpean and US banks through central bank monetization.  For holders of physical gold, they know that nothing goes in a straight line up, and pullbacks are healthy.  When they finally consolidate, and the paper markets become a desert wasteland of HFT trading, the real prices will go back to the physical markets, and in them, supply and demand will be king.